Saltheart Foamfollower

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  Rumor about the Imitate Jesus Convention

  by FusionTheism in

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  i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  Here's what I think they could do. Allow fellowship at the Kingdom Hall but not elsewhere. From their point of view it would mean they were still in control (You can see your grandchildren - just attend meetings!!!!!) but could tell the authorities that they aren't splitting up families etc. The talk would probably go something like this "EVIDENTLY when Jesus said observe the lillies of the field, he meant you can associate with disfellowshipped ones at the Kingdom Hall" (Note - I'm being sarcastic)

  Their recent change in emphasis about the prodigal son could have prepared the way for this.

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  Convention Cartoon

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so last night they played the convention cartoon.

  there were a few laughs from the audience, overall though people seemed a little taken aback and tight lipped.

  like no one gushed about it afterwards, no applause, just like it was nothing new at all.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  ..........and just in case you missed it, the cartoon will be shown again a week or so before your convention (if the elders remember)

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  UK Branch visit 2015

  by tamagotchi in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone know anything about it?

  apparently it's going to be broadcast live nationally to all the congregations this saturday

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  The programme has just come through:-

  Programme for Special Meeting
  Branch Visit
  Saturday April 25, 2015
  Mill Hill Kingdom Hall, Broadcast to all Congregations in Britain and Ireland
  Chairman: Dennis Dutton
  1.00 p.m. Opening Song D. Dutton
  Prayer D. Dutton
  1:05 p.m. “If God is For Us, Who Will Be Against Us?” J. Larson
  1:45 p.m. Summary of The Watchtower Article: S. Hardy
  “Preparing the Nations for
  ‘The Teaching of Jehovah’”
  2:15 p.m. Song No. 104 and Announcements D. Dutton
  2:25 p.m. Branch Report and Experiences P. Gillies
  2:45 p.m. Talk M. Sanderson
  3:45 p.m. Concluding Song D. Dutton
  Concluding Prayer M. Sanderson

  Of note is that Mark Sanderson is the GB member not Sam Heard. Also, Paul Gillies has an item.

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  Regional Convention 2015 - Program

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  friday morning9:20 music9:30 song no.

  5 and prayer9:40 chairmans address: imitate jesuswhy and how?10:20 symposium: lessons from jesus word pictures observe the birds and the lilies have salt in yourselves build your house on the rock11:10 song no.

  120 and announcements11:20 follow jesus patternkeep on asking, seeking, and knocking!11:45 keynote address: concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom12:15 song no.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  One thing I like to do during symposia is to contemplate the original meaning of a symposium - basically a gathering of young men getting drunk and doing what young drunk men have always done. Being ancient Greece, this developed into (drunken) philosophical discussions with each one giving their view and hence to our current usage. Still, I like to see whether the borg symposium seems to have been written whilst drunk (weird or just plain crazy) or the morning after (angry). Pretty much everything falls into one of these categories (or even both)

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  WT instructions on NOT copying the 'Shepherd Flock of God' book.

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  shepherd the flock of god.

  1 peter 5:2.

  this publication is congregation property.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  Funny thing is - as far as I can tell this isn't available here in the UK yet. Thought it was meant to be a united org!
  
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  List of UK Travelling Overseers in 2013

  by soiledumpling in

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  hi pepeep am attempting to get a current list of uk travelling overseers.

  left 4 years ago and have heard rumours of many new ones.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  Julian Hodson (brother of Marina Sydlik) is returning to the UK from Italy to be a co. He always seemed like a pretty decent sort when I knew him.
  
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  2015 March 17, BOE!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2015 march 17, boe.

  (this boe goes along with the march 15 boe concerning circuit overseer visits)... click the link below and then click the green download button.. .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/29sj8bh.

  .. .. atlantis!.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  The paragraphs in the shepherding book refer to "cautions before recommending certain brothers". The subheadings are "Brother previously reproved or disfellowshipped", "Guilty of adultery in the past", "Separated or unscripturally divorced" and "Brothers who served in an appointed position in the past"

  And no, none of these refer to child abuse.

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  Read the bible daily

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've just had a circuit visit which surprised me because there was no mention of money or any of the other subjects which seem to have cropped up for others recently.

  he did say that we need to read the bible daily so i have decided to do just that.

  however, having heard about it on the jwpodcast, i'm reading the skeptic's annotated bible daily which i think will benefit me more than reading the nwt.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  I've just had a circuit visit which surprised me because there was no mention of money or any of the other subjects which seem to have cropped up for others recently. He did say that we need to read the bible daily so I have decided to do just that. However, having heard about it on the jwpodcast, I'm reading the skeptic's annotated bible daily which I think will benefit me more than reading the NWT. As the bible app contains various alternative translations, I don't think I could even get into trouble if anyone finds out!

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  RIP Terry Pratchet

  by Slidin Fast in

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  an inspiration brave man.

  i have nothing to add to that, just sadness at his passing.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  A wonderful writer and inspirational human being. If you've never read him, don't be deceived into thinking his books are childish. He disguised a real insight into human nature by putting it into a fantasy setting and including a lot of humour. Paraphrasing a quote from a character showing how nationalism can make people do dreadful things :- "Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life"
  

  RIP OFIAH
  
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  The beginning of the end for shunning?

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg seem to prepare for changes by missing explanations out for a while then presenting a "new understanding" which doesn't contradict the most recent discussion.check out the most recent references to gog - no identification as satan.. in today's wt study, paragraph 15 concerning benefitting from the prodigal son stated "if we meet a person who has strayed from the congregation, will we offer loving and practical help to assist him to return?

  " there is no footnote or other qualifier saying not to go to disfellowshipped ones (who are definitely the ones being talked about) which is still the official policy.

  i know this isn't an ending to shunning, but it may signal the start of the preparation for a change.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  Just to clarify a couple of things - far from being disfellowshipped, I'm an elder who is mentally out and trying to help others secretly. Also my point was that in the past the prodigal son has always been likened to df ones. I would have expected a qualifier (as has been done in the spanish wt) to the point I quoted. The fact that there isn't suggests that it might be the first step. Or it might not - it's not like they are very good at being consistant!